Thank you, but I can do without the sarcasm

I do realize what kind of forum this is and what you guys believe. I came here to get some different opinions from folks who are not curently in an MLM. I am not here to convince anyone to join anything. I guess my question should be, why do you think ALL mlm’s are bad?

It’s nice that you have definite ideas of what answer you *wish*

for on a forum that you have just joined. It’s a tad on the arrogant side – did you bother to read any of the files? Did you check the archive of postings? You would have found the answers to your questions in there.

As for it being a good concept. What is good about it? It is good for the originator of the product who wants a cheap and easy sales force that has no overhead. I fail to see what’s good about the idea from anyone else’s view. There is nothing about it beyond this that makes any sort of economic sense at all. There is no need for for a hierarchal distribution system so why do you need all the “middle men”? Not to sell product that’s for sure – but sell something else.

It is a garbage way to do business. It is a great way to suck money out of marks.

I allowed your post onto the board

because it looks like you have some important questions and perhaps some doubts about MLM. It appears to me that you feel you’re not getting straight answers from your sponsors in the MLMs in which you’ve been involved, and you’re getting highly emotional responses from those who think MLM is a scam (and don’t have the benefit of a real interaction with folks who can control their outrage).

There are people here who, like you, have een involved in more than one MLM. There are people here who have been out of MLM for many years, and others who have only exited their MLMs recently. I think it’s fair to say that the kind of response ex-MLMers will give you is directly related to how long they’ve been out, how much their involvement cost them and how well they’ve come to terms with it.

There’s a LOAD of anger associated with it, and I encountered some of it while I was still in Amway/Quixtar. So I completely understand the bewilderment of someone who still believes in it.

The bottom line, though, is as Hal has already stated: VERY few people make any money in MLM, and a lot of those who do have to give up their ethics to make whatever profit they make. I saw some of that while I was in, and it played a role in my decision to quit.

Are there ANY MLM companies that provide a good opportunity for those who would get involved with them? I’m not sure that the answer is an unequivocal NO. There are companies that favor direct sales over recruiting – Pampered Chef, Discovery Toys and Tupperward would be examples. There are still negatives to this approach for the involved reps, but at least there are real sales to real customers, as opposed to the “buy-from-yourself” model that is promoted in many groups.
It’s still hard work for little more than part-time pay. But at least it’s honest.

Most MLMs do not bother to adhere to the restrictions imposed by honesty. Some of them walk a careful tightrope between legal and illegal. The fact that an MLM exists legally doesn’t mean they operate ethically or that the law will not eventually catch up with them. Some have already been caught and shut down.

There are thousands of MLMs out there today, and most of them are only there to benefit their founders. You’re welcome to keep looking, but for me personally, the effort of looking is not worth the probable result. Even if there is a beneficial MLM company that sells a worthwhile product, it wouldn’t be worth the effort to get over the MLM stigma in order to sell it.

There are simply better ways to make a living – and to spend my time and energy.

Before I write anything else, I notice that you feel MLMs are good

You do realize that you are writing to a group of people who have been burned by MLMs or have seen loved ones burned by MLMs or have lost loved ones to MLMs, don’t you? We also state, from the beginning, in files you were asked to read, that we make no pretense of giving MLMs a fair chance — we regard them as bad. Period.

Having said that, do you still feel you’ll get favorable comments about MLMs from us?

My name is Wayne

I have been part of a couple of MLM’s in which I have lost money. I believe that the concept is a good one, but the problem with them is that most folks who sign up with MLM’s do not work the system. I also do not think that many of them like Xanga that relies on some one buying the same product over and over are doomed to failure. I took part in Amway, and another one called Dreamchievers.
My question is this, it there ever a product in which a MLM will work? I am currently working yet another MLM. The difference with the one I am working with now, is they do not try to convice you that you will “get rich quick” and I have been an associate for less than 2 weeks and have already more than doubled my investment. That alone is a big one for me, as with the other two, I never even recovered my investment cost.
Anyway, I am here to gain some insight from those who have worked MLM’s and have honest opinions on them. What I am not looking for is name calling and the irrational bashing that is on some of the forums.

You’re not wrong

given the emphasis most MLMs place on recruitment and “building your business.” If the focus was truly on having a quality product, building a client base and ONLY recruiting new IBOs when the potential recruit approaches the rep (rather than the other way around), people would get the sense that the business model is legitimate and one’s resilience wouldn’t have to be so high.

Quality products delivered with quality service would make being a rep easier. Not easy, just easier.

It’s battling all the negatives that make staying with it so tough and creates such high attrition.

Or am I wrong on that?

So if MLM sales takes more resilience and includes more rejection than normal sales, doesn’t that mean there will be a lot fewer people who can make progress in an MLM than in other businesses? That would limit the pool of your potential downline to a very small percentage of the population since not many people can do well at any kind of sales in the first place.

That little voice is your intuition

your sixth sense, fright/flight, self preservation. I am a sales professional and will tell you that sales is not for everybody. And MLM sales takes that much more resilience in the face of rejection. And if you want ‘out’ and somebody is going to great lengths to convince you to stay IN, you know they want what’s best for THEM and not YOU.